US
Congressman makes case for LTTE
A United States Congressman has urged the US State Department to
present a roadmap to guide the LTTE to get off the terrorist list.
Firing
questions at Donald Camp, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of
State for South Asia Affairs, during the House of Representative
Committee of International Relations hearing on Sri Lanka and Nepal,
Bred Sherman, Democratic Party member from California, asked whether
there was a difference between Al Qaeda or other rebel groups and
George Washington if violence was a criterion to impose a ban on
group or label it as a terrorist organisation.
We
publish below Mr. Sherman’s questions and Mr. Camp’s
answers while the box story carries excerpts from the opening statements
from Committee chairman Leach and Mr. Camp.
March 15, 2006 -House International Relations Subcommittee on Asia
and the Pacific Holds Hearing on Unrest in Nepal and Sri Lanka.
Brad
Sherman: Thanks for holding these hearings.
I'm going to focus on Sri Lanka. I've urged the State Department
to design a road map for the Tamil Tigers, so that they would know
what steps they would need to take to get off the terrorist list.
The response has been, well, we don't do that, which basically means
that we're not acting to encourage the Tamil Tigers to improve their
behavior.
Perhaps deputy -- principal deputy assistant secretary -- you could
outline here what actions do we want the Tamil Tigers to take or
refrain from.
Donald
Camp: Actually, I think it's fairly straightforward.
The LTTE was put on the terrorist list, because of their violent
activities.
What they would need to do would be to basically renounce terrorism,
renounce violence in...
Sherman:
What is the difference between terrorism on the one hand, and waging
a legitimate guerrilla struggle on the other? What is the difference
between Al Qaeda and George Washington?
Camp:
If I could...
Sherman: (inaudible) George Washington did use
violence.
Camp: Last I checked, though, he did not blow up buildings with
civilians. I mean, the LTTE has been famous for its attacks, its
suicide bomb attacks on civilian targets.
Sherman:
Well, obviously...
Camp: And that makes a real difference.
Sherman:
Obviously, when you focus on civilian targets, that's terrorism,
when that's the deliberate objective of your behavior.
Camp:
And I also have to add that, as far as the United States government
is concerned, I mean, the Sri Lankan government is a sovereign government
that we recognize. We support that government and its territorial
integrity.
So, the LTTE, to call them a legitimate organization...
Sherman:
Wait a minute. Are you saying that if there was a country in Europe
during our revolution that didn't recognize the independence of
the United States, they would have had to view George Washington
as a terrorist, simply because they didn't agree with his objectives?
Camp:
I'm simply saying that we support the Sri Lankan government as a
legitimate government of the country of Sri Lanka. We see the LTTE
as a terrorist organization.
Sherman:
And if they were to stop targeting civilians, what would be our
policy?
Camp:
If they were to clearly renounce terrorism and stop carrying out
those attacks, then I think, once we were convinced that they are
sincere, then we can look at their terrorist listing. But they have
not given us any reason to be generous about their motives, let's
put it that way, sir.
Sherman:
Well, their motives, in the sense of what their political objectives
are, were sufficient to enter into a peace process. Terrorism is
not a matter of motives; it's a matter of tactics.
There
are those who long for a universal caliphate, but they don't kill
civilians to achieve it. We don't call them terrorists just because
their stated objective is similar to that of Mr. bin Laden. Terrorism
is a tactic; it's not an objective.
I have simply been -- well, I was frankly disturbed by that reaction.
The LTTE has made a number of statements to renounce terrorism.
And we have taken the IRA off the terrorist list. We took Fatah
off the terrorist list, or the Palestinian Authority of the PLO
-- whichever incarnation they had prior to losing control of the
Palestinian Authority.
And
I would hope that we would start telling these groups what we want
from them, with the expectation that if they deliver, they will
get off the terrorist list. And I do think, though, it's legitimate
to take a look at their objectives, as well as their tactics, as
one consideration.
I would
think that seeking some degree of autonomy for northeast Sri Lanka
is not a terrible objective.
Perhaps
you -- where do you think we're headed in Sri Lanka? Are we headed
for another round of war?
Camp:
I guess I'm a little more optimistic now that they've returned to
peace talks. It's been four years -- well, three years since the
talks broke off. The fact that the two sides are talking again has
to be a reason for optimism.
They've got a ways to go, but I think the government in Sri Lanka
is committed to looking for a peaceful way out of this. And I think
everyone is tired of 23 years of war.
Sherman:
The government has taken substantial action to prevent
aid from reaching the parts of the island that were most affected
by the tsunami, namely the northeast, which generally supports the
Tamil Tigers, the LTTE.
What has the United States done to make sure that aid that's supposed
to go to individuals is not interrupted for political reasons?
Camp:
I would -- I guess I would say that the government of Sri Lanka
made efforts to in fact make sure that aid was not only equitably
delivered, but it would seem to be equitably delivered. And their
attempt to establish this mechanism, with which they reached agreement
on the LTTE -- a fairly significant achievement that took quite
awhile -- was thrown out in the courts. Therefore, they've had to
find other mechanisms.
I think
I would take issue with the idea that they have actively attempted
to prevent tsunami assistance from reaching the northeast.
Sherman:
I think a government is responsible for all three branches of its
government. For example, Saddam Hussein is on trial, because his
revolutionary courts decided to execute 152 people, 148 people.
And I would hate to think that we take the position that it's OK
to disrupt tsunami relief as long as it's done by the judicial branch
of the Colombo government, and not the executive branch of the Colombo
government.
Countries
are responsible for their own constitutions and their own -- and
all three branches of the government. So, I would hope that we would
do more to say it is not an acceptable excuse to say, people on
the ground aren't getting the aid that the world has generously
provided, because, oh, it's a different branch of your government.
I yield back. And I'd point out to the chairman, who also serves
with me on the Financial Services Committee, that I need to go there,
and he may have to, as well.
Camp:
Deeply committed to Lankan peace
James A Leach (chairman): On behalf of the subcommittee, I would
like to extend a warm welcome to our distinguished administration
witness, Don Camp, who is the principal deputy assistant secretary
of state for South Asia affairs in the newly expanded Bureau of
South and Central Asian Affairs.
The
subcommittee meets today to review recent developments in two important
countries in South Asia, both of whom have been struggling to overcome
bitter legacies of domestic unrest that threaten internal stability
and economic prosperity in the societies. In Sri Lanka, despite
relatively good economic fundamentals and a solid social welfare
structure, the country has not taken off as another regional tiger,
principally because it remains mired in a multi-decade long civil
war. Prospects for a permanent resolution of the conflict appear
dim at this moment. Fortunately, eleventh hour efforts by the Norwegian
government to broker a new round of negotiations in Geneva late
last month helped save the badly battered four-year-old cease-fire
agreement from likely collapse.
From
a congressional perspective, one has the sense that the assassination
of the foreign minister in the summer of 2005, coupled with other
politically motivated killings, dramatically eroded support for
the current cease-fire agreement among many of the majority Sinhalese
people in Sri Lanka. Likewise, one also has the impression that
the failure of the government to reach an agreement with the Tamil
separatists on a mechanism to provide post-tsunami relief to areas
in the north and east of the country, as well as ongoing paramilitary
operations against the insurgents, may have convinced the insurgent
leadership that Colombo was unlikely to commit to a just and permanent
peace.
In
this troubling context, we underscore our concern for the people
of both countries. We have a number of questions about the situation
in Nepal and Sri Lanka and the implications of such for United States
policy. We look forward to your testimony and the exchange of views
to follow.
Well,
Mr. Camp, let me welcome you. We note that today is the Ides of
March. (laughter)
Camp: I'd like to read a short version of my statement for the record.
First on Nepal. (Edited due to space constrains).
Let me turn now to Sri Lanka and its longstanding conflict and very
fragile peace process.
The
senseless assassination of Foreign Minister Kadirgamar last August
and a very intense presidential campaign heightened tensions in
Sri Lanka during the fall of 2005. Following President Mahinda Rajapaksa's
election on November 17th, escalating violence took the lives of
Tamil civilians and almost 100 Sri Lankan security personnel, and
put the four-year cease-fire agreement between the government of
Sri Lanka and the LTTE very much at risk.
As the attacks continued, President Rajapaksa came under pressure
to respond. But to his credit, the government showed significant
restraint in the face of these provocations and maintained the cease-fire.
Given
that deteriorating situation on the ground, the United States, the
E.U., Japan and Norway -- the so-called Co-Chairs of the Sri Lanka
Donors Group -- met several times late last year and early this
year to discuss possible solutions. The Co-Chairs sent strong messages
to both the Sri Lankan government and the LTTE to end the violence
and uphold the fragile cease-fire agreement. In this respect, Norway's
vital role as facilitator of the peace process merits special attention.
Sri
Lankan government and LTTE negotiators met in Geneva on February
22 and 23, the first time in over three years that the two sides
had returned to the negotiating table. The negotiators achieved
some significant outcomes that should give the peace process in
Sri Lanka some new momentum.
First, they agreed to refrain from violence and to uphold the cease-fire
agreement. The government specifically addressed the problem of
armed groups, a very serious LTTE grievance, and committed to ensuring
that no armed group or person other than government security forces
will carry arms or conduct armed operations. The LTTE pledged to
ensure there would be no acts of violence against the security forces.
Given
the difficulty involved in even convening this meeting, we consider
it a significant achievement that both sides agreed to meet again
in Geneva, April 19 to 21.
Despite
the long conflict, Sri Lanka is a fully-functioning, stable democracy
with strong democratic institutions and traditions, including freedom
of the press. Human rights violations in Sri Lanka are largely related
to the ongoing domestic conflict.
Government
security forces, LTTE cadres and other armed groups have all been
accused of abuses. Sri Lankan police and security forces have been
accused of torture and links to groups participating in armed attacks.
The LTTE has engaged in a whole host of abuses -- politically motivating
killings, disappearances, torture and much more. We are particularly
concerned about ongoing LTTE recruitment of child soldiers, in spite
of its pledge to end such activity.
Mr.
Chairman, we're deeply committed to achieving peace and stability
in Nepal and Sri Lanka. The president's remarks on Nepal following
his meeting with Indian Prime Minister Singh highlight the level
of importance to us of these issues.
We
will continue to work in South Asia with our friends and allies,
through international fora, such as the Co-Chairs Group in Sri Lanka,
and through the outreach of our embassies in Kathmandu and Colombo,
to help the Nepalese and Sri Lankan people overcome the considerable
obstacles before them on their paths back to peace and prosperity.
Thank
you for the opportunity to appear before you, and I would be pleased
to answer any questions. |